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16 April 2009 @ 11:02 am
My Farscape Post  
I was going to jot down a few thoughts on sebaceanbabe's birthday post, but it got...longer than I was anticipating. It's a bit rambly and all over the place, I apologize for that, since I have to flee to pick up my pops at the airport in a few, so he can come visit with my boys, who have a full schedule of baseball and soccer, which they wanted to show off. Of course, it's now supposed to snow 6-10 inches through Saturday, so...thanks for coming, pops!

Okay, so I’ve now watched through the 2-parter (19 &20?) of Season One of Farscape and I have to admit that I do a lot of it semi-distracted, which is how I watch television on the computer. I’m contemplating doing Season Two on disc and forcing myself into the basement and the big t.v. with no distractions.

That said, I am liking it a lot, despite the Muppets.



I like the general premise and that Chricton isn’t a soldier or a badass, he’s just an IASA astronaut, who’s thrust into this bizarre different universe and in the worst possible way, taking out Crais’ brother, completely by accident and instantly becomes both known and hunted, not to mention he gets mixed up with a bunch of escaped prisoners from the get-go.

I like how he also doesn’t instantly evolve into a badass. He’s kinda bumbling around at first, totally a fish out of water, and much more of a hindrance than an asset, much to the annoyance of, well, pretty much everyone, but D’Argo in particular.

I liked how, in "PK Tech Girl," he actually found a way to be useful, in that what needed to be done was something he was at least semi-qualified to do. Plus, I like Gilina both times we meet her. It sucks that she had to die, but it would have been horribly awkward had she lived.

I like how the group has gone from open animosity to barely tolerating each other to actual affection (and more). They’re no longer only interested in saving their own skins and using each other to do so. It's touching to see. Yes, Crichton and Aeryn. But also in "Human Reaction" (was it?) with fake Earth and Crichton's relief that Rygel wasn't dead and D’Argo, so sweet with holding Aeryn’s hand and making sure that she wasn't going to die alone. And who’s now calling Crichton “John!”

I have to admit, I’m not a huge Zhaan fan. I just have a natural aversion on painted aliens. Which is why I’m not a huge Chiara fan, either. She just bugs, with the creepy voice and the weird inflections and the bizarre head movements and the heinous outfit. I’ve only just met her, so I suppose there’s still hope, but I’m not feeling her quite yet.

On the same lines, that’s probably why I found the whole “commune” episode with Zhaan’s people most insufferable. Even with the melding or what-you-ma-call-it with Crichton.

Though I kind of hated the ridiculous dog-the-bounty hunters as characters, I kind of liked that episode, if only because it’s the first time I saw (or it registered) Crichton be kind of proactively badass, what with the top-dog act and all. It was surprisingly hot. I like how he gets proactive with becoming useful with other things too, now that he has to deal with this being his life for whoever knows how long (e.g., learning to fly the Prowler).

I really liked the “Human Reaction” episode. For John showing his love towards his shipmates and getting his damn heart broken by his “dad” and, well, mostly, looking hot while walking around in jeans and other “earth wear.” And I kind of liked that though it was horribly manipulative and cruel for the aliens to have done what they did...you can kind of get behind the idea. They needed to know exactly how humans would react to an alien "invasion" as they only have one chance to find a home and it's just kind of heartbreaking for everyone involved.

For some reason I get a kick out of Crichton when he pretends to be a PK. He's all "authoritarian" and downright hot in the uniform, and I don’t even like leather. I like how Crichton’s no longer a liability and how it was a natural progression, from being just clueless and lost to now having been out there for however long and having to learn and adapt and be clever and loyal and fire weapons, even (and yes, you can totally see the beginnings of the making of the cr...) or be all with the deaded.

Speaking of the making of the cr...Scorpious is an awesome villain. I love how he instantly out-badassed Crais, the second they appeared on screen together. And I semi-like how they gave Crais a backstory and a reason why he’d be so resolutely “KILL” on Crichton’s ass with the death of his brother, even though I'm not particularly (or at all) sympathetic to his character.

I love Crichton’s random pop culture references and the way everyone else just ignores them.

But mostly, I love, love, love how when things are at the absolute worst for Crichton and someone piles it on just a bit more, his reaction is to laugh entirely inappropriately. It’s awesome and endearing and it's just...so much better than the alternative. You know? The 1000 yard stare, the weepy eyes, and the meanest, least sympathetic, jackassy retort possible, ahem, SARAH (that one’s for you, sebaceanbabe, plus yesterday was hard, I was due). But seriously, the giggle is awesome!

I loved the 2-parter for all the obvious (for me!) reasons. The torture. Crichton undercover as a fake PK (though how that “accent” how they don’t expose him immediately is beyond me, Crichton, sir, you are no Michael Westen). The torture. Crichton's patented laugh, when he sees Crais has arrived in the middle of all that torture, because (of course!) he would. Gilina! And Gilina saving them all (even Aeryn), even though it means losing her true love to another PK, and she totally knew that when she rejoined them, despite (or because of) Crichton's non-answer. The torture. Stark and John bonding in the cell, the comfort scene and most of all their total giggle-fest over Crichton's “kissed a girl” comment in the middle of battle.

So, anyway. I'm in and liking it a lot and looking forward to finishing up this season and moving on to the next (even with some reported weak episodes that'll greet me at the beginning there).

Am I missing anything huge?
 
 
 
The Proverbial Bull in a China Shop...: the radiant Aeryn Sunsabaceanbabe on April 16th, 2009 04:19 pm (UTC)
A Human Reaction is one of the most cited episodes as being the one where the epiphany occurs and you realize this show is good. :D

And oh, "the radiant Aeryn Sun." Crichton is so in love with her and she so doesn't know how to be in love with him, but she is.

But man, you don't like Chiana? That is so sad! She and John are my POV characters. (And my alternaship to John/Aeryn.)

I am so glad you're digging Farscape. *bounce*
cianconnellcianconnell on April 16th, 2009 08:53 pm (UTC)
A Human Reaction is one of the most cited episodes as being the one where the epiphany occurs and you realize this show is good.

Yays, then I'm not just completely, irrevocably and imbicilily (is too a word) missing the entire point. It really was a heartwrenching episode. On everyone's part.

I thought in PK Tech Girl, she so totally pretty much laid it out how she lurved him (though he'd missed the signs and had fallen for Gilina). I think that she fell for him pretty early, in wanting to find a home and kind of finding one in him (and his offers to bring her back to earth).

I do not like Chiana (so much so, that I apparently got her name wrong). I've now watched to season's end and...she's still not doing it for me. I don't dislike her. I liked the feast she made for them all and her goodbyes, but something about the speech inflection and neck twisting and the God-awful outfit, makeup and wig are really rubbing me to wrong way.

I'm hoping that it'll turn around in the future. More surprising things have happened.
brandywine421: have a nice daybrandywine421 on April 16th, 2009 04:20 pm (UTC)
I love that you love it! I totally need to rewatch now. You always get me excited about TV.

I love Chiara for all the things you dislike her for, the weird movements and quirks always amused me. I just liked that she seems so 'alien' without being a real muppet.

Scorpius is one of my fave villains ever.

I must've missed tons because I only have a vague idea of what you're talking about. But I still remember loving how the show actually let the characters grow without having it be an omgepiphanyomg.

I'm blanking on Zhaan, is she the blue one?
cianconnellcianconnell on April 16th, 2009 08:56 pm (UTC)
I DO! I so totally do. And you NEED to! Because it would be fun.

I find myself sneering at Chiana and her weird quirks. I dunno. She may grow on me.

Scorpius is awesome! In a badassy kind of a way.

Zhaan is, indeed, the blue one. I think that I have problems with the quirkiness, and also the ultra-calm, or the priestess role, or whatever...I dunno. I'm just ambivalent towards her and hope that they never meet another...whatever the heck she is.

I don't doubt her place with them or that she's loyal or one of them and deservably so, I just...am not interested at all in her, her character, her background, her future, her...whatever....
MiniOrr: Random: I watch for the plotminiglik on April 16th, 2009 07:43 pm (UTC)
I like how the group has gone from open animosity to barely tolerating each other to actual affection (and more). They’re no longer only interested in saving their own skins and using each other to do so. It's touching to see. Yes, Crichton and Aeryn. But also in "Human Reaction" (was it?) with fake Earth and Crichton's relief that Rygel wasn't dead and D’Argo, so sweet with holding Aeryn’s hand and making sure that she wasn't going to die alone. And who’s now calling Crichton “John!”


I love me some Crichton/Aeryn, but D'Argo and John is another one of my favorite relationships. Their friendship is so hard earned, and they're both incredibly selfish and full of their own Issues at times (D'Argo always and John later), that when they're finally genuinely good friends it's really fun to watch. Aeryn and D'Argo, Aeryn and Pilot, and John and Chiana are all also good. (And John and Scorpius eventually have one of the best hero/villain relationships ever, but you'll get to that later.)

Isn't Scorpius great though? His look is well done, he's almost Darth Vader iconic-looking. The actor does the costume justice, and he's written in a way that's not a petty "mwhahahaha" villain. And he could jog circles around Crais in almost every way. Crais is, like, the starter villian.

I hope you eventually like Chiana. She's a little inconsistant the first few episodes, and she hasn't had much to do yet, but I do eventually like her a lot.

Also, if you like Crichton's Alpha-Male act and inappropriate laughter, then I feel you are going to love the rest of the series. Because... there's only going to be more of that.

But seriously, the giggle is awesome!

I can't wait until you see "Won't Get Fooled Again." I don't know how it's possible for an episode to be that angsty AND cracked out, but it is. And my favorite Crichton, other than Bravado Crichton, is the one that alternates between sobbing and laughing inappropriately.

Oh, on a Random Trivia Note: the female creature of the week in the next episode, M'Lee, is played by Browder's wife, Francesca Buller, who plays a character in at least one episode every season (and the miniseries). She's always in heavy prosthetics/make-up too.

I loved the 2-parter for all the obvious (for me!) reasons. The torture. Crichton undercover as a fake PK (though how that “accent” how they don’t expose him immediately is beyond me, Crichton, sir, you are no Michael Westen). The torture. Crichton's patented laugh, when he sees Crais has arrived in the middle of all that torture, because (of course!) he would. Gilina! And Gilina saving them all (even Aeryn), even though it means losing her true love to another PK, and she totally knew that when she rejoined them, despite (or because of) Crichton's non-answer. The torture. Stark and John bonding in the cell, the comfort scene and most of all their total giggle-fest over Crichton's “kissed a girl” comment in the middle of battle.


Crichton's accents are Sooo Baaad. I like to think it's some sort of short hand for the fact that Crichton doesn't actually SPEAK Peacekeeper Language (whatever that's called). Also, enjoy Stark while you can, because later he's annoyingly written. Which is even MORE annoying, because all the other characters are well written, but he becomes Mr. Plot Device whenever he appears and it's... annoying.

And I feel you may come around to leather (see Crichton's ass in icon).
cianconnellcianconnell on April 16th, 2009 09:03 pm (UTC)
D'Argo and John are great. I've finally seen Season One's finale and the whole "How you doing?" "I've gotta pee," and the insta-giggles they both got was awesome (so much of a change from the beginning of their relationship, or even when they agreed not to be enemies in the bounty-the-dog hunter episode).

And John, once again, cracking up when Crais entered the ship with Rygel. Classic! I really love that quality of...when all else fails...it's such a human reaction and I love that it's been going on the whole time, and from your comments, it isn't going anywhere. It truly is one of my favorite Crichton-isms.

Also, if you like Crichton's Alpha-Male act and inappropriate laughter, then I feel you are going to love the rest of the series. Because... there's only going to be more of that.

Okay, that is entirely made out of win, and I'm very, very excited to moove on to Season Two. So much so that I bought and uploaded into my i-pod. It's been so long since I've had a show to work out to at the gym, I'm really looking forward to it (once I saw i-tunes has them all...no need to rent the discs, when I can buy them to the i-pod and it'll have my undivided attention as I strive to get back into shape...*sigh*).

Crichton's accents are indeed cringeworthy, but kind of amusing at the same time.

I'm sad to hear about Stark, since I really loved their connection in the cell in the following gun fight.

Hee, I'm so NOT a leather fan, but as I said, I wasn't exactly complaining...

cianconnellcianconnell on April 16th, 2009 09:06 pm (UTC)
Aeryn and Pilot

Oh, and YES, they totally had me going in their goodbyes in the season finale. A muppet, damnit! A muppet!
MiniOrr: Farscape: Crazy Crichton with Big Damn Gminiglik on April 16th, 2009 09:52 pm (UTC)
Rygel never, ever, wins me over. I mean, I don't straight out hate him, but I'm not a fan. But Pilot is GREAT. He even gets a back story ep, season two's "The Way We Weren't" which is a favorite ep for a lot of fans. (I like it a lot, but I'm a little too much of a Crichton fan for it to be my favorite -- if Crichton's not tortured and at least a little crazy it's not quite a favorite.)

D'Argo and John are great. I've finally seen Season One's finale and the whole "How you doing?" "I've gotta pee," and the insta-giggles they both got was awesome (so much of a change from the beginning of their relationship, or even when they agreed not to be enemies in the bounty-the-dog hunter episode).

Here, have a totally random, unimportant, out of context season three Crichton/D'Argo as BadAss BFFs scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGjB_1lzbOw&feature=related

Okay, that is entirely made out of win, and I'm very, very excited to moove on to Season Two. So much so that I bought and uploaded into my i-pod. It's been so long since I've had a show to work out to at the gym, I'm really looking forward to it (once I saw i-tunes has them all...no need to rent the discs, when I can buy them to the i-pod and it'll have my undivided attention as I strive to get back into shape...*sigh*).

Yay!

Do you see now why Farscape is hard to recommend? It's, like, brilliant at doing things I LOVED, but it's got muppets and body paint and fart jokes and really, really, really bad science, and occasional bad boring episodes on planets of blue people or planets of tribal people dressed in purple nylon vests. But when it's awesome it's really awesome.

I'm sad to hear about Stark, since I really loved their connection in the cell in the following gun fight.

Me too. I like to think of that Stark as the real Stark, and this other guy's just a random character who happens to look like Stark and have all his characteristics. Don't worry though, he doesn't show up for awhile.

And John, once again, cracking up when Crais entered the ship with Rygel. Classic! I really love that quality of...when all else fails...it's such a human reaction and I love that it's been going on the whole time, and from your comments, it isn't going anywhere. It truly is one of my favorite Crichton-isms.


I'm glad you like it. Some people don't like that he does get so loud and inappropriate when backed into a corner. (And especially in season two.) I kind of like it as character development, in that he starts to lose any inhibitions after all that happens to him. He'll say what he pleases and react how the hell he wants to, and he'll find the humor in everything, because otherwise he'd just go, well, crazier. Plus, it's not like D'Argo and Rygel don't just do and say and act exactly how they please, too, you know? Crichton's kind of a loud, obnoxious dick for awhile (season two), because he's just on a massive PTSD FLAIL (and, you know, the psychological torture has just begun).


Okay, so what do you think of Aeryn? I kind of LOVE HER MASSIVELY.

cianconnellcianconnell on April 16th, 2009 10:31 pm (UTC)
Hee, with the "Who's your daddy." Yeah, Crichton looks...way more with the batshit badass there than in the semi-soft place I have him now.

Rygel can make me laugh, despite myself, though I'm not a huge fan. I do like that Crichton reacted the way he did in "Human Reaction," even though he's not much of a fan, either. Though, I also liked his dressing-down in the finale, because...so well deserved.

Do you see now why Farscape is hard to recommend? It's, like, brilliant at doing things I LOVED, but it's got muppets and body paint and fart jokes and really, really, really bad science, and occasional bad boring episodes on planets of blue people or planets of tribal people dressed in purple nylon vests. But when it's awesome it's really awesome.

Yes, totally, I'm trying to get folks to come along with me for the ride, but it's a hard sell.

Some people don't like that he does get so loud and inappropriate when backed into a corner. (And especially in season two.) I kind of like it as character development, in that he starts to lose any inhibitions after all that happens to him. He'll say what he pleases and react how the hell he wants to, and he'll find the humor in everything, because otherwise he'd just go, well, crazier.

Okay, I completely and totally would marry this. As I said, I LOVE the "fall back to humor" reaction, and even the inappropriate laughter (LOVE) and comments (well deserved, I think). I cannot STAND folks without some semblance of humor, especially in the face of so much despair. I think humor is one of THE THINGS that makes us all human and it saddens me when folks seem to have no semblance of it. Not to get too much TMI, but it's totally what got me through my mom's death, what with hanging with my sibs and dad in the horrible aftermath, and realizing that you CAN still laugh, as incredible as it seemed at the time.

Anyway, on that depressing note:

Aeryn is LOVE. I adore her. She's absolutely everything I'd ever want to be, if I was a kickass hero-type. She was so painfully alone and actually had to make the decision that none of them had had yet (I guess the blue chick had it later with the commune episode) of whether to "go back home," but realized that it was no longer her home and she was just as alone and stranded as the rest of the sorry lot. Only to find her home with them...she's heartbreaking, but without giving up being all badass. I'm really, really digging her. A. Lot.


MiniOrr: Farscape: Aeryn subdues Crichtonminiglik on April 16th, 2009 11:09 pm (UTC)
I'm a huge believer in humor to ease grief. Particularly when it's totally inappropriate Wrong!Bad!Humor that only you and the other grieving people would be okay with. J's this way too, so we often end up going with the dark funny when we're upset or even fighting or whatever.

She was so painfully alone and actually had to make the decision that none of them had had yet (I guess the blue chick had it later with the commune episode) of whether to "go back home," but realized that it was no longer her home and she was just as alone and stranded as the rest of the sorry lot.

Yeah, she's awesome. She's full of the least amount of crap of anyone on the show, and yet she's so emotionally stunted. I can't decide if I like her arc or Crichton's better, but hers is much more subtle.

MiniOrr: Farscape: John says hi.miniglik on April 18th, 2009 02:42 pm (UTC)
So, uh, watched anymore?

Yes, I'm bored.
cianconnellcianconnell on April 18th, 2009 11:42 pm (UTC)
Heh.

My answer should totally be a resounding yes, since I plugged my i-pod in last night before going to bed, then actually went to the gym today (go me!), but, sadly, apparently, I had checked the box to only upload television shows that I had marked and I hadn't marked the Farscape ones. Boo!

So, I ended up rewatching an old episode of Freaks and Geeks and sad, so sad...